Many of my high school clients say they want to go to college in a big
city. I ask them why and they really can’t explain. It seems to come
down to “it just sounds like fun.” Hopefully, finding the “right
college fit” for them is the final answer that we will all come to after
an adequate search and many campus visits in between.
A recent trip to New York City afforded me the opportunity to really look at several “in big city” schools. I have to admit that I can certainly see the elements of “fun” in attending any one of these three colleges that I visited. Barnard College and Columbia University are in the middle of Morningside Heights – a trendy, beautiful area of downtown New York City while Fordham University is located right in the middle of the Bronx. Barnard College reminds me so much of the small, intimate colleges at the University of Cambridge in England as this school is also built around a beautiful courtyard. Once in the courtyard it’s as if New York City and its big city noise no longer exist. On the other hand Columbia University, located directly across the street, is a sprawling roman architecturally influenced campus that also somehow manages to keep the hustle and bustle of New York City at its campus edges. Fordham University is a stunning 85 acre campus that has mastered the art of melding their new buildings with the older gothic architecture influenced buildings. The Bronx seemed very far away on this beautiful treed campus. Our tour group was quite amazed that all three schools could provide such an “intimate” college feel in the midst of more than 8 million people in the city surrounding them.
The perks of attending these particular schools include special opportunities for discounted or free tickets to different arts, music, Broadway and sports events in the city. There is no need for a vehicle on the campuses as all transportation is easily accessible. Of course, the train system in New York is wonderful as kids can head off to Washington, D.C., Boston, Philadelphia and smaller cities in between. The students feel safe on both the Barnard and Columbia campuses, but point out that a safety shuttle is always available to all students wherever they are within the city. Fordham is located close to the subway system, but the school provides a buddy shuttle system that waits for students at the subway entrance at night. It is clear that safety precautions are important at Fordham as the school is completely fenced in with gates and security guards at each gate location. However, the students made it quite clear to us that they feel very safe on the campus. The students enjoy the cultural aspects of the Bronx and the different eating establishment opportunities.
As I have pondered my response to my high school clients who are looking for that “fun” big city school or any school for that matter, I help them realize they will have much more fun at a school when they have found their “right fit.” If a student chooses a college or a city solely based on it looking fun, they will end up being miserable and miss out on an amazing opportunity to grow into the person that they are called to be. This was clearly reiterated by the college admissions staffs at Barnard College, Columbia University and Fordham University during their tours. Their jobs have now turned into less looking at a student just for their grades and test scores because that does not always translate into a student who “fits” into their college campus. Rather they are concentrating on finding that student who “belongs” on their campus, who will “resonate” on their campus and who will bring “value” to their campus.
My advice to high school students and their parents is to get out there as soon as possible to begin touring the campuses, going to the information sessions, staying overnight, or attending classes at different schools. This information seeking time will really help a student discern his or her “right fit.” Regardless of city size or college size, a student who finds where they truly belong will experience a lot more “fun” during his or her college tenure.
A recent trip to New York City afforded me the opportunity to really look at several “in big city” schools. I have to admit that I can certainly see the elements of “fun” in attending any one of these three colleges that I visited. Barnard College and Columbia University are in the middle of Morningside Heights – a trendy, beautiful area of downtown New York City while Fordham University is located right in the middle of the Bronx. Barnard College reminds me so much of the small, intimate colleges at the University of Cambridge in England as this school is also built around a beautiful courtyard. Once in the courtyard it’s as if New York City and its big city noise no longer exist. On the other hand Columbia University, located directly across the street, is a sprawling roman architecturally influenced campus that also somehow manages to keep the hustle and bustle of New York City at its campus edges. Fordham University is a stunning 85 acre campus that has mastered the art of melding their new buildings with the older gothic architecture influenced buildings. The Bronx seemed very far away on this beautiful treed campus. Our tour group was quite amazed that all three schools could provide such an “intimate” college feel in the midst of more than 8 million people in the city surrounding them.
The perks of attending these particular schools include special opportunities for discounted or free tickets to different arts, music, Broadway and sports events in the city. There is no need for a vehicle on the campuses as all transportation is easily accessible. Of course, the train system in New York is wonderful as kids can head off to Washington, D.C., Boston, Philadelphia and smaller cities in between. The students feel safe on both the Barnard and Columbia campuses, but point out that a safety shuttle is always available to all students wherever they are within the city. Fordham is located close to the subway system, but the school provides a buddy shuttle system that waits for students at the subway entrance at night. It is clear that safety precautions are important at Fordham as the school is completely fenced in with gates and security guards at each gate location. However, the students made it quite clear to us that they feel very safe on the campus. The students enjoy the cultural aspects of the Bronx and the different eating establishment opportunities.
As I have pondered my response to my high school clients who are looking for that “fun” big city school or any school for that matter, I help them realize they will have much more fun at a school when they have found their “right fit.” If a student chooses a college or a city solely based on it looking fun, they will end up being miserable and miss out on an amazing opportunity to grow into the person that they are called to be. This was clearly reiterated by the college admissions staffs at Barnard College, Columbia University and Fordham University during their tours. Their jobs have now turned into less looking at a student just for their grades and test scores because that does not always translate into a student who “fits” into their college campus. Rather they are concentrating on finding that student who “belongs” on their campus, who will “resonate” on their campus and who will bring “value” to their campus.
My advice to high school students and their parents is to get out there as soon as possible to begin touring the campuses, going to the information sessions, staying overnight, or attending classes at different schools. This information seeking time will really help a student discern his or her “right fit.” Regardless of city size or college size, a student who finds where they truly belong will experience a lot more “fun” during his or her college tenure.
A student who goes Early Decision or Early Action does stand a better
chance of being accepted than going regular decision. Remember there are
still no absolute guarantees, but the pool of students who go Early
Decision or Early Action is far less while the Regular Decision pool is
significantly bigger. Legacies and athletic students are encouraged to
apply early as their admissions chances are greater at that point. It
is also statistically proven that it is better for women to apply early
decision or early action. Those students with higher financial needs
also have a greater chance of acceptance in Early Decision or Early
Action because these decisions are made at the beginning of the
financial aid budget. Therefore money is more readily available at this
time. It is important to note that Early Decision is binding which
means that your student is saying that if accepted at this college he or
she accepts and will pull or cancel their applications from all other
colleges. Early Action is non-binding and a student’s final decision is
not required until May 1. This allows students the opportunity to
evaluate all of their scholarship and financial aid awards at the
various schools they have applied to before making a final decision.
Again, while these admission tips are helpful, there is still no denying that college admissions today is truly a “crapshoot” as described by one admissions staffer. If a student has complete certainty that a school is “the school” then it makes sense to go for Early Decision. But understand that sometimes that does not work out the way you want. My youngest child was completely denied by her first choice, early decision school. While devastating at the time, it afforded her the opportunity to quickly reevaluate her other applications. We ended up looking for the school that was most like her first choice. She ended up getting accepted at Furman University with a $40,000 scholarship. She realized that sometimes the worst “NO” can become the most incredible “YES.” Furman ended up being the far better choice for her.
Again, while these admission tips are helpful, there is still no denying that college admissions today is truly a “crapshoot” as described by one admissions staffer. If a student has complete certainty that a school is “the school” then it makes sense to go for Early Decision. But understand that sometimes that does not work out the way you want. My youngest child was completely denied by her first choice, early decision school. While devastating at the time, it afforded her the opportunity to quickly reevaluate her other applications. We ended up looking for the school that was most like her first choice. She ended up getting accepted at Furman University with a $40,000 scholarship. She realized that sometimes the worst “NO” can become the most incredible “YES.” Furman ended up being the far better choice for her.
Many people try to use College Board Members, Senators, Congressmen or
other important people to write recommendations on their children’s
behalves. Most of these letters are form letter like with some benign
reference of recommending your child to that school. Sadly, these
hold little value for the College Admissions staffs. While most of
these come across as nice letters, there is no real first hand knowledge
of the student that they are writing about. Recommendations really
need to come from teachers or people who know your child. Because you
have no control over what these people will write about your child, you
really want to choose that teacher or person who has some long term
history with your child or good knowledge of your child in a class.
Admissions offices look at these recommendations as another opportunity
to really get beyond the application to know a student and to determine
if they are a “right fit” for their college. (read more great information)
Your student’s level of interest matters to the College Admissions staffs. That interest can be shown through college tours, college over night stays, college class visits, interviews with the college admissions rep of your area, interviews with college alums, and email question exchanges with admissions staff members. Level of interest can also be determined by the admissions office when your student opens emails from their school or when they have visited the school’s website. Most, if not all schools keep track of your student’s interest. I remember when my oldest daughter was applying to Davidson College. We were told they keep a file on your child once they fill out an information card. It was noted in her file every time my daughter would contact the admissions rep, go to the campus, stay at the campus or show up at the school’s information night in our hometown. Admissions staff members will tell you that if it comes down to two similar students for admissions acceptance, the one who has expressed the most interest in the school will more often than not gain admission. In my daughter’s case, she got into Davidson College! I don’t know what the tipping point was for her admission acceptance, but I can say that we did everything possible to let them know of her interest. I tell my clients to make a point of signing in every time they visit a school, try to get an interview or meet the admissions representative who covers our area, check out the website often, and show up at any college fairs or in town information sessions. Let the school you are interested in know who you are!
